It is a heart-wrenching thing to spend one's life in ministry and then have one's children leave the faith when they become adults. Yet, pastors' kids often see the least attractive features of church life and are exposed to the greatest amount of cynicism and doubt.
My friend Martin Weber has completed research for his doctoral dissertation (which won't be defended until May) on this topic, the result of interviews and a survey of 113 clergy with adult children in a Midwest judicatory of the Adventist denomination. He finds that the most significant factors in avoiding adult children of clergy leaving the faith are (1) being able to discuss church problems in the parsonage while also (2) managing to sustain joy and togetherness in the family circle and (3) giving teens the freedom to develop their own faith experience without the expectation of being super-saints because they live in a parsonage.
Some other interesting findings:
- Parents who are conservative about lifestyle is not statistically significant in predicting dropouts.
- Legalism regarding soteriology is moderately significant.
- Legalism regarding practicing the principles of the gospel is highly significant.
- Clergy parents who hold their children to a higher behavioral standard is one of the most significant correlations with dropouts.
- Lack of relationality in the clergy family is the most significant correlation with dropouts. Pastors with the highest retention rate among their own adult children managed to provide the most positive and fun family experience and were close enough to talk about anything in an atmosphere of freedom that allowed their children and teens latitude in developing their own faith.
- Closely related with family relationality is the freedom and trust to discuss controversial issues. A major cause of dropouts is to attempt to shield the children of clergy from or resist discussing with them conflicts in the congregation or the denomination.
- The most significant predictor of adult children of pastors who are still in the faith is whether the child took initiative in approaching a clergy parent to discuss spiritual things.
- When members of the congregation criticize the children of the pastor, they are contributing to the future lack of faith on the part of those children.
Keep your eyes open for more good information. Weber tells me that he's been asked to write an article about his research for Adventist World and Jim Gilley, the new president of the Three Angels Broadcasting Network (3ABN) has asked him to tape a short series. I hope that 3ABN will produce that in DVD. Of course, his complete dissertation will be available from University Microfilms by the end of the year. Weber is a pastor and communication director for the Mid-America Union Conference of the Seventh-day Adventist Church with offices in Lincoln, Nebraska.
Did Martin look at the role a pastor's spouse plays in this?
I'm the child of a PK who says that his father did all the right things - and his idea of the right things about the same as Martin's - but his mother held her children to the higher behavioral standard, explaining that they would damage their father's ministry if they were bad. Now some of them are no longer attending church.
Posted by: This Time I'm Anonymous | March 23, 2008 at 09:15 AM
I don't know. I will ask him. I have not seen the entire dissertation, just small pieces so far.
My hunch is that the data assumes the parents are together on key attitudes, etc. If the spouse undermines the pastor in the way you've described that is certainly going to have negative consequences, but it is sometimes difficult to tease out something this specific. The majority of parents try to deal with their children in a united way.
Posted by: Monte | March 23, 2008 at 09:52 PM
Probably because they don't even appreciate a good celebration!
http://adventistsnotcult.blogspot.com/2008/01/cadillac-jack-movies-and-fiction.html
Posted by: clarissa | March 25, 2008 at 02:57 AM
I would say from looking at the questions on his survey that he did not ask direct questions that had to with the spouse, but a couple that were indirect.
Posted by: Marty | March 26, 2008 at 08:42 PM
I'm the one who did the study. Thanks for your interest!
The difference between Dad and Mom in the parsonage is an intriguing and vital study of its own. I didn't have opportunity to pursue it, although my data would facilitate at least a preliminary study comparing the parents. What I had originally hoped to do was to ask the PKs themselves the same questions I asked their parents and then triangulate their answers with those of Dad and Mom. I just couldn't persuade enough PK parents to share the contact information for their kids (which is understandable, given privacy issues and other concerns). Actually, that study would be so big I wouldn't have been able to complete it within the time frame I was working with.
My prediction, based on what data I do have, is that Monte is correct that dysfunctional differences between parents in the parsonage do have a negative and potentially devastating effect on kids.
Posted by: Martin | March 31, 2008 at 07:57 AM
Hi
I'm a pastor, with 2 kids (former UK, currently Bermuda). Thanks Martin for your study, and Monte, for blogging it.
I was just wondering, since this was done in the Mid-West of the US, are the conclusions of the study relevant beyond the Midwest, or the US for that matter?
Posted by: stefan | April 15, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Stefan, there is no easy answer to your question. If one applies the strictest rules of the social sciences, then the study applies only to the Midwest USA. But, this type of study has become widely accepted by scholars as suggesting findings that can be used in all cultures unless one can point out specific reasons why there would be reason to expect different results in a different culture. So, unless you can think of sociologically valid reasons why Martin's findings would not apply or apply differently in Bermuda, you can safely use this information there.
Posted by: Monte | April 17, 2008 at 01:34 PM
I am very pleased to know about Pastor Weber's research results. About a year ago, I completed my doctoral dissertation on parenting styles and adolescent outcomes. Although my study was not limited to pastors' children, the majority of the participants were parents and adolescents who were members of Spanish churches in either the Florida Conference or the Southeastern Conference of Seventh-day Adventists. I was able to separate the effects between fathers' parenting styles and mothers' parenting styles. A number of the participants were also Adventist pastors, their spouses, and their adolescent children. My results and the results of Pastor Weber's research definitely support each other.
Posted by: Ileana Freeman-Gutierrez | April 18, 2008 at 09:42 PM
Ileana, can you share with us the full title, year and institution for your dissertation so that those of who want to can get a copy from University Microfilms?
Posted by: Monte | April 19, 2008 at 05:00 AM
The title is Parenting styles, parents' level of acculturation, and developmental outcomes among Cuban American adolescents in the United States, Ball State University, 2006.
It is very interesting for me to notice that a number of factors found by Pastor Weber as significant in keeping clergy's children in the faith are also characteristics of what the professional literature calls the authoritative parenting style. In my study I found that parents who raised their children using the authoritative parenting style were the ones whose children demonstrated the best desired competences and behaviors when they were in late adolescence. In other words, I found that parents who used a parenting style which included Pastor Weber’s factors (among others) reported having teenagers who made choices and behaved in ways that were very pleasing and satisfying for these parents. I think this is significant because we know that it is during the adolescence period when most children decide to adopt or reject their parents’ values.
With only few exceptions, the majority of the participants were members of Hispanic Adventist churches in South Florida. The pastors of the congregations who happened to have adolescent children were very supportive and participated with their families as well. Although the study focused on Cuban American families, I also collected data from Adventist families from other Latin American countries. I just didn’t report the results from these non-Cuban families because it was not part of the study design.
Going back to Stefan’s question, I think we can at least say that the positive results seen in families who use the authoritative parenting style transcend the Midwest and can be found in the population of Cuban Americans in South Florida. I have come across other studies that support these same conclusions not only in the Midwest, but among other U.S. minority populations who are located outside the South Florida and the Midwest regions.
Posted by: Ileana | April 28, 2008 at 05:58 PM